Polite Dissent

18 Responses to “ A Question Regarding Infinite Crisis #4 (Mild Spoilers) ”

1. Jhunt
   January 19th, 2006 at 10:33 am
   

   I’m pretty sure she was ripped in half. DC is the new Extreme!

   (actually I have no idea. And I don’t think anyone at DC does, either.)

2. Jeff R.
   January 19th, 2006 at 12:30 pm
   

   Well, one of the worlds had to get all of the ‘miscelaneous’ characters from Earths-S, -4, and -X that are still around. Whichever world that was probably is the ‘default’ in the split and gets the halfbreeds.
   (Where’s Black Canary, BTW?)

3. Nala
   January 19th, 2006 at 12:48 pm
   

   Well… since the current Mister Terrific and Doctor Mid-Nite are post-Crisis creations they stayed on the “current” Earth. I’d imagine Pat’s biological daughter, born post-Crisis, would do the same.

   The big question is Bette Kane (Flamebird) disappearing.

   Betty Kane (Bat-Girl), her pre-Crisis life, was all Earth-1.

4. Bobby Flashpants
   January 19th, 2006 at 4:29 pm
   

   Taking into account Alex’s explaination about The Ray II’s inheritance of his father’s
   Earth X “genes,” then I assume Ms. Dugan likewise inherited her father’s Earth-2 “genes,” and poofed over to there while the rest of her family stayed on Earth-other.

5. Seth Finkelstein
   January 20th, 2006 at 1:21 am
   

   Maybe “Earth-ness” is a bit like “psychic force”, in that it comes in different strengths among individuals. Mixed-Earth offspring might be weakly but definitively one or the other, instead of indeterminate.

6. farsider
   January 20th, 2006 at 8:24 am
   

   “At the end of Infinite Crisis #4, all the previously Earth-2 members of the JSA disappear from Earth-1 and reappear on the newly re-established Earth-2.”

   Don’t beleive in Spoiler Warnings, huh, Scott?

7. Scott
   January 20th, 2006 at 8:48 am
   Official Comment

   There is a spoiler warning; it’s in the title of the post.

8. Mike Loughlin
   January 20th, 2006 at 12:36 pm
   

   The entire family exists on both Earths, only the Earth I version lacks any super-hero history. Same for every possible crossed-over character… until DC comes out with a painstakingly-thought-out but still self-contradicting new “history.”

9. H
   January 20th, 2006 at 6:20 pm
   

   I don’t know the answer, but it’s a fun question to toss around isn’t it? I missed multiple earths.

10. Andrew Burton
    January 21st, 2006 at 6:03 pm
    

    …or for that matter, what happened to Mike Dugan? I’m pretty sure his mother is from the current Earth too. Also, what about Courtney’s belt and rod, were those not from Earth-2?

11. TayJK
    January 22nd, 2006 at 3:54 am
    

    I think we are forgetting that DC has stated multiple times that continuity is not going to be changed coming out of this Crisis. At least not like it was coming out of Crisis on Infinite Earths. More like the little retcons you could get coming out of Zero Hour.

12. Scipio
    January 22nd, 2006 at 6:05 pm
    

    I’d assume that the “Earth-1 gene” is recessive….

13. farsider
    January 23rd, 2006 at 1:36 pm
    

    There is a spoiler warning; it’s in the title of the post.

    oops. sorry, scott.

14. Chris Arndt
    January 23rd, 2006 at 9:16 pm
    

    No. no. no. The Freedom Fighters are from Earth-2 and moved to Earth-X to fight Nazis.

    What Earth-X-anything? The “Earth-X characters” are all immigrants born on another planet.

15. methane
    January 24th, 2006 at 10:22 pm
    

    The characters go wherever the writer wants them to go.

    Earth 1 or Earth 2 characters only make sense to us readers. If you think inside the DCU it makes no sense. There always was one Earth since the beginning of time (which is where they went in the first chrisis), long before Earth was formed or humans evolved.

    So where do these ‘Earth -1′/’Earth-2′ genes come from? Was there someplace on this Earth where some guy had his genes changed by a flashing meteorite and all his descendants got Earth 2 genes? Somewhere else a woman had a random mutation and all her descendants got Earth-X genes? We’d have a lot of people like Patricia, with a mixture of genes.

    And all these mutations happened well after the creation of the universe. How were those linked to separate universes that never existed because of actions taken millions of years beforehand? It would be like saying our different blood types are linked to something that happened at the Big Bang. Really blood type A only belonged in one universe, B in another, and AB was never supposed to exist.

    The whole gene thing struck me as similar to mitochlorines (or whatever they were called) from the Star Wars prequel, better left forgotten. If you wanted a scientific way of bringing back multiple Earths, you really needed to go back to the begining of time. Otherwise you needed to attribute it all to magic, and not things like genes.

16. Thomas
    January 26th, 2006 at 12:27 am
    

    Kal-L states that the current DCU Earth is based off of Earth-1. So if she was born on the post-Crisis DCU Earth, when the split was made, she’d be considered an Earth-1 type of person.

    That said, I didn’t get the impression that they split the DCU Earth into Earth-1 and Earth-2 at the end of the issue. What I got out of it was they created Earth-2. So in the last pages of the issue, we’ve got DCU Earth (minus the Earth-2 elements) and Earth-2 — not Earth-1 and Earth-2.

17. Thomas
    January 26th, 2006 at 12:28 am
    

    There are a few issues left in the series. Perhaps issue five will feature several DC characters applying for dual citizenship.

18. Avi Green
    January 26th, 2006 at 11:53 am
    

    Out of curiosity…

    If the Atom/Ray Palmer hasn’t shown up yet, does anyone think he will before this miniseries is over?

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